EXCLUSIVE- Making a case against President George W. Bush



Best-selling author Vincent Bugliosi's latest effort takes on President George W. Bush.

Vincent Bugliosi is a former California prosecutor and a three time #1 New York Times bestselling author. During the last 30 years he's written about, among other things, Charles Manson, the O.J. Simpson trial and the Kennedy assassination.

Now, he's taking on President George W. Bush. In a serious and thorough investigation Bugliosi has penned what is his best work yet - a searing look into President George W. Bush and why he should be prosecuted for murder.

That's right; murder.

The book may be the most important piece of non-fiction written so far this young century. It is compelling. It is important and it talks about many people we know and some we love here in Montgomery County.

With us being so close to the subject matter - by geography and by subject, we felt it was important for our readers to catch up to and speak with Mr. Bugliosi about his newest book.

"I'm sure people who haven't taken the time to read this book are going to think I've lost my marbles," Mr. Bugliosi told us, "But anyone who's read it knows I haven't. Everything I do is serious and I have taken a serious look at the crimes of George Bush".

What he finds is extremely disturbing, but "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" makes for extremely good reading.

The Sentinel: So, what got you interested in writing a book like this?

Bugliosi: It's really anger. I don't want this guy getting away with all these murders. I wrote about O.J. getting away with two, but imagine how I feel watching Bush getting away with hundreds of thousands of murders.

The Sentinel: Some have called you courageous for writing this book, while others have called you a slave to the left.

Bugliosi: I don't feel I'm a courageous guy. I'm motivated by anger. I have an enormous animosity against this guy and I don't mind saying it - I want to be candid.

There is a secondary reason I wrote this. I don't believe we are a great nation any more. If your criteria is wealth and military, we're still number one. But, I don't think we're number one in the important ways a nation should be measured.

The Sentinel: Such as?

Bugliosi: Health care and education come to mind. And if we prosecuted Bush for murder it would enhance our stature around the world.

The Sentinel: How did we fall?

Bugliosi: I think there was always a positive image throughout the world of the U.S. before the Iraq War and now we're viewed in a very negative way. And for all of those who want us to be a great nation, we won't be able to make that step until we prosecute those responsible for the Iraq war. I do not want this guy to get by with murder.

The Sentinel: Isn't it a bit ridiculous to think we'd prosecute the president for murder? Isn't it more likely to make the case for impeachment?

Bugliosi: Impeachment isn't a large enough punishment. On a state level I've established jurisdiction for all 50 state attorney generals and 950 district attorneys across the country who could prosecute him.

I do not think it's unreasonable to believe there's a courageous prosecutor who will step forward and go after him.

Don't forget there is no statute of limitations for murder. Pinochet in Chile was prosecuted 33 years later.

This is not an unreasonable thing. This could happen.

The Sentinel: Still, it sounds rather radical to prosecute the President of the United States for murder.

Bugliosi: There's nothing radical about this. I'm just following the letter of the law. It isn't strange or bizarre or other worldly things. People who've read this book agree.

If you're interested in true justice, impeachment alone is a joke. Of course he should be impeached, if we impeach presidents for a sexual affair and trying to cover it up, the punishment should be much worse for this.

The interesting thing is that though billions of words have been written and said about George Bush, by the way none of which he could care less about, up to now there has been very little done to him.

There's no investigation of him.

Clinton had a consensual relationship outside of his marriage and we spent seven years and $70 million investigating him. Bush took us to war under false pretenses and caused the deaths of at least 100,000 people and we do nothing to him.

And, not only do we not do anything, but the media don't even want me to talk about it.

The Sentinel: How's that?

Bugliosi: No one wants to talk about this book and it's very important that we do. ABC even took it to a new level by refusing to take money from my publisher for an ad spot. Then there's the audio for the book. I never give a thought to it. But this time I get a call from Peter (Miller - Bugliosi's agent). He told me I can't get any audio company in America to do the audio on the book - had to go to the BBC. We had to go outside to get funding for the documentary from Canada.

With my background and completely being blacked out like this, this is something that wouldn't happen today anywhere in Europe, but maybe in Putin's Russia. This is pretty serious here. It has nothing to with someone embracing or rejecting the book.

This is supposed to be America here, where we cherish freedom of speech and expression. But we don't.

The Sentinel: Well for personal reasons we're very interested in the fact that you were being blackballed by the media, but tell me a little bit about the emotional underpinning for the book.

Bugliosi: The evidence is overwhelming and indisputable that with more than 100,000 people dying horrible violent deaths and hundreds of thousands of survivors crying out that this guy George Bush smiled through it all.

While young kids who never had a chance to live out their dreams got blown up by roadside bombs in Iraq, George Bush was having fun and living life to the fullest.

He has no hesitancy saying things like - imagine FDR or Truman, LBJ or Nixon saying things like this during their respective wars.:

"Every day is a good day," (said during the news conference as recently as this Tuesday).

Think about all the horror and bloodshed going on, the mutiliation and the death. How could you say:

"Laura and I are having the times of their lives. " Or, "It's going to be a perfect day," or "I'm feeling pretty good about life."

Even if George Bush was only guilty of taking this country to war on an innocent mistake, with all the death and suffering he has caused, what kind of monstrous individual could be happy with his life?

He took the nation to war on a lie. He has compounded it by having a lot of fun throughout the horror of it all - but I don't think we talk about it much. We don't discuss it much.

The Sentinel: What about the people who still believe that George Bush was right to go to war - and there are plenty of them. What about them?

Bugliosi: They're either incredibly stupid, or they're the right wing.

My opinion on the right wing is that it is made up of the most hypocritical, repugnant un-American people in society. When it was their time to fight - I mean Bush and Cheney and Rove during the Vietnam War, they ran like hell in the opposite direction and now they have no hesitancy in waving the flag and shedding the blood of other Americans in this war.

What I perceive to be a fact about the right wing is that as far as they're concerned, since Bush is a conservative republican and so are they, anything he does is just fine with them - even murder. They pledge allegiance above all not to the American flag, but to the Republican party. Any conflict between America and their party and they tell America to take a walk.

And, that group has taken over the Republican party.

The Sentinel: Okay, well what's wrong with the media? Why aren't we out backing this book, putting you on major talk shows and talking about this ad nauseum?

Bugliosi: Three people told me independently of each other, they said the reason why you're not being put on these shows is because of who you are. If I were just some goofy guy, I'd be colorful entertainment and then that would be the end of it.

But because I write very serious, true crime books about major crimes of the 20th century, they know that I prove my case beyond all reasonable doubt, so the inference or belief is that I do the same in this book and they're terrified of it.

The Sentinel: That can't be everyone in the press.

Bugliosi: I find there are three distinct groups in the press. Seventy five to 85 percent of the liberal press and media are terrified of their own shadow and try to walk between the raindrops. I don't respect these people, but I'm not angry with them. That's the majority of the liberal talk show hosts. This group doesn't want to have me on and they don't want to have anything to do with it because they're afraid of being savaged by the right wing.

The second group, however, I am angry with. They don't want me on because of the inference that I would be upstaging them. They argue against the president using little more than very nasty words. I want to take it to another level.

The third group is the right wing and they're not terrified of the left wing, but they don't want to give me a forum to prosecute their guy.

The Sentinel: You're certainly no fan of the press.

Bugliosi: My experience with the press, I've said most of them have graduate degrees in nitwit-ology. They can always be counted on to do a minimum of thinking. They're not impressive at all. They're sheep like. A big story comes along and they all follow it, sheep like. I cannot excuse their behavior on the part of ignorance. They are more aware of what goes on in the world than most people. So, it has to be stupidity. It's the stupid leading the ignorant.

The Sentinel: We don't want to deter from sales, but can you outline some of your major points of evidence against Bush?

Bugliosi: I have documentary evidence that to my knowledge has never appeared in any major newspaper in America. On the evening of Oct. 7, 20002 in Cincinnati President Bush addressed the nation. He told millions of unsuspecting Americans that Hussein was an imminent threat to our safety. When he told us that, he was telling us the exact opposite of what his own CIA had told him just six days earlier on October 1 in a classified report.

It gets worse. On Octber 4 the Bush administration published an unclassified report of the classified report as evidence for Congress and the American people. It becameknown as the "White Paper". The conclusion that Hussein wasn't an imminent threat was completely deleted so that congress and the American people never saw any of this.

It doesn't get any worse than that.

The Sentinel: So you are saying ?

Bugliosi: There cannot be any question that President Bush took this country to war under false pretenses. I got a call June 16 from a very conservative southern Republican congressman, one of the most vocal supporters of the war. He called me and said he'd not only read the book, but was buying copies to give to other Congressmen.. He was giving the book to them saying, "read the book. We've been lied to."

He also told me, "After the November election, I look forward to helping you pursue the truth."

The Sentinel: What about the "Manning memo?"

Bugliosi: On January 21, 2003, less than two months before the invasion on March 19, 2003, Bush and Tony Blair met with six of their top aids, including Blair's chief foreign policy advisor David Manning. Manning wrote an "extremely sensitive" memo summarizing the meeting.

Bush and Blair apparently expressed doubts about finding WMDs in Iraq before we invaded.

Manning said Bush was so worried about inspectors not finding WMDS that he talked about three possible ways to provoke a confrontation with Hussein.

One of which, he wanted to fly U-2 spy planes falsely painted in UN colors over Iraq to see if he could get Hussein to fire on them. That would make Hussein in violation of a UN resolution and we could then justify going to war.

So here's Bush telling us Hussein's an imminent threat, but behind closed doors this very small man was talking about how to provoke Hussein into war.

If Bush honestly believed Hussein was an imminent threat, the thought of provoking Hussein into a war would never have entered his mind.

The Sentinel: So, what about the weapons of mass destruction?

Bugliosi: The issue isn't even whether or not he had WMDs. Who cares? Many countries have them. For instance Pakistan, Russia, China England, German and India all have them. The test is whether or not the country which has WMDs is an imminent threat to our security. And 16 U.S. intelligence agencies in 2002 all agreed Hussein was no imminent threat. This is the point everyone seems to miss.

The Sentinel: Okay, bottom line though, even if all that you say is true, I have to go back to the idea and concern. Do you think he'll ever really stand trial for this?

Bugliosi: The likelihood is there isn't a high probability, but I do think there is a substantial possibility that Bush will be in an American courtroom someday, somewhere facing a first-degree murder charge.

The Sentinel: Were you prepared for the scorn you got from writing this book?

Bugliosi: Oh, I know what the opponents are saying. They're saying "Bugliosi's lost his marbles." I'm sure that if the president is aware of this book, then that's what his handlers are telling him. But I'm 95 percent sure that when he's alone, he'll say, "This guy isn't a nut. What if there's something to this?"

At a minimum, I want to put the thought in this guy's mind that for the rest of his life, he's never going to know if someone is going to tap him on the shoulder and tell him he's being charged with murder.

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